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Can a cheap PSU cause graphical problems in games? (draw distance, LOD)

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Start date Aug 24, 2017

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Hello.
I have a question, like in topic - can a cheap, low quality PSU cause graphical problems in video games? Like drastically low draw distance or broken LOD (level of detail)?

My PSU:
SilentiumPC Vero L1 500W (VL1-500)
Full PSU specs: https://www.silentiumpc.com/en/vero-l1-500w-80plus-standard/
Can't find it on ebay or amazon. Made in china, can be bought in Poland easily.
Price - 44 euro if we convert Polish money to euro.
It's not present on Tom'sHardware reccomended PSU list.
Mixed reviews for that PSU - and the 99% of negative reviews are about "unstable PSU voltage" where it leads to hardware stopping responding from time to time, PC turns off, disks go sleep etc. Few negatives about short lifetime too. But many positive reviews there too and cheap price so I've bought it.

I've built my PC not long time ago - I'm using it something about 1 month, so it's new. On Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 there were no problems, but then I wanted to try Windows 10 x64 Pro - about 1 week ago. I've installed Win10 so (not upgraded Win7, fresh install), installed all required drivers and started playing some games. Then I encountered distant objects problems first time. I'm back on Windows 7 now, but same problems there too.

How the problems looks like?

Example problem videos (watch in best quality possible):

(my video, example problems)
https://youtu.be/gUcprmsIopU

1st clip : near bow dot,
2nd clip : rocks
3rd clip : rocks after gate
4th clip : roof out of nowhere
5th clip : shadow on wall
6th clip : shadows, objects, textures on house wall
7th clip : random stuff around

(other guy, I have same issues in same game spots)
https://youtu.be/lgopVwuf_jM

(other guy here, encountering identical problems in games too)
https://youtu.be/zjgoCGRmi98

The objects pops in out of nowhere. No smooth fading. They just triggers near instantly. LOD issues - same, textures quality changes instantly. Same for shadows. When moving around in games, too many instant changes in einvorement. When playing You can't miss it. Graphics looks tragic when everything around pop in, changes, show up/dissapear. I can't play any game with that visual issues. Stopped playing games normally since problems started.
It happens in every game - Dark Souls 3, Dark Souls 1, Witcher 3, Lords of the Fallen, even in CEMU Zelda Breath of the Wild emulated...

Searched internet - found some forum threads with same problems, hundreds of threads sites, no clear answers.
Found just three single guys who succeed - one guy changed PSU, one guy switched CPU from Intel to Ryzen, one guy plugged his PC into different house far away from his house.
Many guys tried replace hardware one-by-one, moving parts to different mobo, etc, problem still appears.
Even Nvidia stays quiet - not responding or just says "it's normal in games".

Games graphical options maxed (except Witcher 3 hairworks, just enabled + low quality of it), 1920x1080. Even at low-res, low quality settings distance problem appears,
Bios was updated to latest non-beta build before problem appears, games were working normally.
All Windows 7 Updates downloaded (can't gt any more updates because I5-7500 "theoretically" not supported by Win7 - everyone knows that it's just cash-grab),
All Windows 10 Updates downloaded too.
GPU - latest drivers 385.41, mobo - latest intel chipset, intel VGA, LAN, Realtek sound drivers, everything updated,
Switching to GPU drivers version that I've installed at first Win7 boot don't help too.
Spent a lot of time in Nvidia Control Panel - no success too.
DDU cleaning (driver uninstaller) - nothing changed.
Messing with BIOS settings (Storage, GPU, Chipset, Memory), reseting CMOS - nothing helps.
HPET both in BIOS and windows disabled/enabled - nothing changes, except fps gain in crowded place in Witcher 3 when HPET disabled,

My full PC specs:

PSU: SilentiumPC Vero L1 500W (VL1-500)
GPU: MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X Plus 6GB
CPU: I5-7500 3,4 Ghz with stock cooler
Mobo: AsRock Fatal1ty B250 Gaming K4
RAM: 2x8GB Patriot Viper 4 DDR4 2400 Mhz Dual Channel Kit
SSD: ADATA SU800 256GB
HDD: Toshiba P300 (HDWD110UZSVA) 1TB
DVD: LG SuperMulti GH24NSD1 RBBB
Display: AOC G2260VWQ6 GAMING!

So, can the cheap, budget PSU causing that rendering problems? Maybe I should order some high-quality PSU and check if it solve problems - if not, just RMA it (sadly I don't have access to friend with any good PSU, so impossible to check it). Or maybe it's some sort of software issues because problems started after installing Windows 10? Or maybe try to update my mobo bios to beta version? (in changelog just "Hyper-threading support fix" change and my i5-7500 doesn't even support it).

Thank You for any suggestions.

And please, if You want to tell me something like that:

"it's normal"
"it's game engine limitation"
"it's how the LOD works"

Better don't even write answer. It's not normal. One week ago I had normal graphics on my PC, now it's totally messed up.

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Hello.
I have a question, like in topic - can a cheap, low quality PSU cause graphical problems in video games? Like drastically low draw distance or broken LOD (level of detail)?

How the problems looks like?

Example problem videos (watch in best quality possible):

(my video, example problems)
https://youtu.be/gUcprmsIopU

(other guy, I have same issues in same game spots)
https://youtu.be/lgopVwuf_jM

(other guy here, encountering identical problems in games too)
https://youtu.be/zjgoCGRmi98

My full PC specs:

Thank You for any suggestions.

And please, if You want to tell me something like that:

"it's normal"
"it's game engine limitation"
"it's how the LOD works"

Better don't even write answer. It's not normal. One week ago I had normal graphics on my PC, now it's totally messed up.

Well for 1 that psu is just dangerous to run with that setup and will rather sooner than later fry your pc so replace it ASAP.

Dark souls isn't doing anything wierd at all. That is exactly how the optimization works. It's no different then when I play ds3. The witcher is doing the exact same thing. However there is one other problem and that is stuttering. Are you loading the game from the ssd or hdd?

: Dec 17, 2012

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Hello.
I have a question, like in topic - can a cheap, low quality PSU cause graphical problems in video games? Like drastically low draw distance or broken LOD (level of detail)?

How the problems looks like?

Example problem videos (watch in best quality possible):

(my video, example problems)
https://youtu.be/gUcprmsIopU

(other guy, I have same issues in same game spots)
https://youtu.be/lgopVwuf_jM

(other guy here, encountering identical problems in games too)
https://youtu.be/zjgoCGRmi98

My full PC specs:

Thank You for any suggestions.

And please, if You want to tell me something like that:

"it's normal"
"it's game engine limitation"
"it's how the LOD works"

Better don't even write answer. It's not normal. One week ago I had normal graphics on my PC, now it's totally messed up.

Well for 1 that psu is just dangerous to run with that setup and will rather sooner than later fry your pc so replace it ASAP.

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Hmmmm....
Sadly for me that distant stuff is not normal.
Before installing Windows 10 and messing up my PC it was totally different.
I'm loading both Witcher and Dark Souls 3 from SSD. Games from HDD have same rendering issues (Dark Souls, Lords of the Fallen for example).

About stuttering - I don't know why they are there. I though it was GeforceExpierience and video recording issue, but sadly, after disabling it it's still there. I could play Witcher 3/Dark Souls 3 at same settings before without any stutters. Just another problem came out of nowhere. No idea how to fix it. Only when I set Witcher or Dks3 settings to lowest the stuttering is gone.

About voltage - I'm posting bios H/W Monitor voltage values. Are they OK? I think they are not (I'm not overclocking anything by the way)

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About voltage - I'm posting bios H/W Monitor voltage values. Are they OK? I think they are not (I'm not overclocking anything by the way)

I would just replace the psu with a quality unit now since you need to do it anyways if you want that system to not die on you soon. It could very well be that it's giving the wrong voltages to the motherboard and such and then causing these minor stutters and issues.

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About voltage - I'm posting bios H/W Monitor voltage values. Are they OK? I think they are not (I'm not overclocking anything by the way)

Thanks.
I'm going to buy new PSU next week and will post results.

I've encountered another problem - some sort of sleep of my HDD.
Sometimes, when I do something not using my HDD (web browsing, playing games etc.) and want to explore HDD drive partition, Windows interface freezes for 10-20 seconds and my HDD starts giving loud noise, something like DVD-drive read noise. That happens a lot of time since not long time. After that 20 seconds, no freezes, works normal, no noise. Is that some sort of HDD idle or what? On my previous PC build I haven't seen situation like that (and I was using my previous build something about 9 years).

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About voltage - I'm posting bios H/W Monitor voltage values. Are they OK? I think they are not (I'm not overclocking anything by the way)

Thanks.
I'm going to buy new PSU next week and will post results.

Either the hdd is sleeping or it was sleeping but it's also dying. They aren't supossed to be loud.

Also what psu?

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Either the hdd is sleeping or it was sleeping but it's also dying. They aren't supossed to be loud.

Also what psu?

Hmmm hope it's not dying, just bought it about month ago (same as the rest of my hardware).
About PSU I consider buying that one

EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650 80 Plus Gold (220-GS-0650-V2)

What do You think about it? Will be OK? I saw it in 1st tier PSU list here, and price (in Poland) is acceptable too.

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Either the hdd is sleeping or it was sleeping but it's also dying. They aren't supossed to be loud.

Also what psu?

Hmmm hope it's not dying, just bought it about month ago (same as the rest of my hardware).
About PSU I consider buying that one

EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650 80 Plus Gold (220-GS-0650-V2)

What do You think about it? Will be OK? I saw it in 1st tier PSU list here, and price (in Poland) is acceptable too.

Yeah good psu go for it.

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I will grab it after weekend so

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Before changing PSU I've read on internet that my rendering problems could be indeed HDD/SSD problems...
I remember that I've made some benchmarks some day ago on this build, and there were warning messages about slow I/O for my HDD (not SSD), but benchmarks results were outstanding in comparison to other users so I didn't cared. Low score on Deep queue 4k test, but I read that non-servers should not care about it.

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/4787776

But anyway I think that my HDD and SSD could be the problem about slow texture loading and stutters in Witcher 3 or Dark Souls 3, ground, einvorement textures and enemies textures starts loading when are 3 meters from my character and takes 1-2 seconds to load which is not normal. Even in small, simple location. It should be milisecond blink, not long wait for game load it. In Witcher 3, when I pause game, the textures need to reload too which is not normal. Reinstalled Witcher 3 on HDD (previously was on SSD) and same issues, only loading saves take much more time to load, it is only difference.

Here is my S.M.A.R.T check of my both disks, while it shows it is in good state - checked in ADATA SSD toolbox, CrystalDiskInfo and with win7 cmd command

wmic diskdrive get status

it says "OK" for both SSD and HDD, but SMART report shows some not good informations

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CrystalDiskInfo 7.1.1 (C) 2008-2016 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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OS : Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)
Date : 2017/08/27 18:27:35

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- TOSHIBA HDWD110 SCSI Disk Device
- HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NSD1 SCSI CdRom Device
+ DAEMON Tools Lite Virtual SCSI Bus [SCSI]
- DiscSoft Virtual SCSI CdRom Device
- DiscSoft Virtual SCSI CdRom Device
- DiscSoft Virtual SCSI CdRom Device

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(1) ADATA SU800 : 256,0 GB [0/0/0, pd1] - m2
(2) TOSHIBA HDWD110 : 1000,2 GB [1/0/1, pd1]

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(1) ADATA SU800
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Temperature : 23 C (73 F)
Health Status : Good (100 %)
Features : S.M.A.R.T., 48bit LBA, NCQ, TRIM, DevSleep
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Drive Letter : C:

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1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FA

-- SMART_READ_THRESHOLD ----------------------------------------------------
+0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F
000: 10 00 01 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 36
010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 18 00 00 00 00
020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
030: 00 00 05 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 43
040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 14 00 00 00 00
050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
060: 00 00 0A 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 00
070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00
080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
090: 00 00 C2 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C4 00
0A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C5 00 00 00 00 00
0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C6 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0C0: 00 00 C7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
100: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
170: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 64

My both disks scored a lot of errors. I don't know in what I should believe - into SMART disk status - which tells my that they are OK, or into tons of errors?
I don't know when my new PSU will arrive, it's already ordered, Monday or Tuesday probably, so I've researched more about my problem.

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http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/4787776

Here is my S.M.A.R.T check of my both disks, while it shows it is in good state - checked in ADATA SSD toolbox, CrystalDiskInfo and with win7 cmd command

wmic diskdrive get status

it says "OK" for both SSD and HDD, but SMART report shows some not good informations

OS : Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)
Date : 2017/08/27 18:27:35

-- Disk List ---------------------------------------------------------------
(1) ADATA SU800 : 256,0 GB [0/0/0, pd1] - m2
(2) TOSHIBA HDWD110 : 1000,2 GB [1/0/1, pd1]

These errors seem minor but a warning sign. A ssd and hdd wouldn't start failing suddenly unless something is making them do it. This also points to a bad psu. First replace the psu and then see what happens.

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Ok Thank You for informations, I will send results after changing PSU.

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Hello again.
So....
I've changed the PSU to the mentioned EVGA one, changed power strip (had pretty old one) wiped out both SSD and HDD totally with Parted Magic (Secure Erase method), reinstalled Windows 7...

Still same issues, can't even comfortable play Witcher 3 now (can't move camera), occasional stutters in other games still too.

Voltages in BIOS are the same except +12 and +5 became a bit lower

About disk condition - only spin-up in time in CrystalDiskInfo for HDD increased from 125 to 133, nothing else changed.

I have no idea what to do now. Throw the whole PC through the window would be best idea I think.

Tried non-uefi MBR Win7 reinstall too, no changes.

Checked latencymon tool too, results :

Your system appears to be having trouble handling real-time audio and other tasks. You are likely to experience buffer underruns appearing as drop outs, clicks or pops. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long.

It shows me that dxgkrnl.sys driver is causing most latency, maybe it's worth investigating it?

Example stats when playing Witcher 3 in stuttering area (most annoying the biggest city in game):

CPU
48-60% cpu load
0.992V core voltage

GPU
gpu temperature 68 degree
2054 mb memory used
GPU Load 100%
Memory Controller Load 47%
VDDC 1.0500V
PerfCap reason VRel

RAM
voltage 1.2V
dual channel mode active
DRAM frequency 1200mhz (I guess it will lead to 2400 mhz for both sticks, 2400 set with xmp 2.0, if xmp disabled there is something less than 1100 mhz there if I remember right)

So I think that's OK except CPU voltage - maybe it's too low?

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Hello.
I have a question, like in topic - can a cheap, low quality PSU cause graphical problems in video games? Like drastically low draw distance or broken LOD (level of detail)?

How the problems looks like?

Example problem videos (watch in best quality possible):

(my video, example problems)
https://youtu.be/gUcprmsIopU

(other guy, I have same issues in same game spots)
https://youtu.be/lgopVwuf_jM

(other guy here, encountering identical problems in games too)
https://youtu.be/zjgoCGRmi98

My full PC specs:

Thank You for any suggestions.

And please, if You want to tell me something like that:

"it's normal"
"it's game engine limitation"
"it's how the LOD works"

Better don't even write answer. It's not normal. One week ago I had normal graphics on my PC, now it's totally messed up.

Well replace it unless you want your PC to be reduced to a useless doorstop.

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Well replace it unless you want your PC to be reduced to a useless doorstop.

Replaced with EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650 80 Plus Gold (220-GS-0650-V2) already. But mentioned issues still appears.

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Well replace it unless you want your PC to be reduced to a useless doorstop.

Replaced with EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650 80 Plus Gold (220-GS-0650-V2) already. But mentioned issues still appears.

Didn't notice any issues, watched the videos.

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Dunno. I know what I've seen on Windows7 and what I've got after trying Windows10.

Now stutters started happening, can't eveb rotate camera in Witcher 3 (normally 60-70 fps in crowded Novingrad but drop to 55 when stutter moment happens)

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Somehow I've solved stuttering problem after another clean Windows 7 reinstall, updated BIOS to latest BETA build, reflashed GPU vBIOS, another PartedMagic Secure Erase disk wiping and some random Windows 7, nvidia, BIOS settings and optimization tricks - don't know which exactly tricks, made a lot of them, followed some from internet, some my own.
Replugged, cleared and plugged again all hardware components too. Some CMOS resets there were too.

Thank You jaslion for help and for reccomending me to change PSU, it was good idea to change my soon-to-explode-bomb-chinese PSU.
And, as You and jankerson said - the pop-ins and strange draw distance could be normal - I've just didn't paid that much attention to it before. Right now after I stopped paying attention to it and focusing at gaming it's not that annoying as before.

So my brain and eyes could just be a problem there

Thanks again.

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The terrible stuttering came back.
But I've reinstalled the Windows 10 again and games run smooth again - I guess I should stick to Win10 forever.

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The terrible stuttering came back.
But I've reinstalled the Windows 10 again and games run smooth again - I guess I should stick to Win10 forever.

The stuttering is most likely a problem caused because microsoft stopped support for windows 7 on the 7000 series of intel cpu's. It should work just fine however there are people reporting slight hangups with certain 6000 series and up setup quite often.

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Yea, probably my first install of Windows 10 triggered something in my PC.

Before installing Win10 for first time on my build I was using Win7 without any stuttering in any games. Yea, I've received message that my CPU is not supported after getting some updates from Windows Update service, wasn't able to get any more Update, but games still played well.

And Yea, without optimizing Windows 10 the games runs terribly (stutters and fps drops like on my Windows 7 now). I needed to disable/delete tons of Micro$oft services, tools, settings, applications, etc. Just tons of built-in junk.

So my problems are solved :
1. The draw distance was just my imagination - just didn't paid attention to it before. Now I focus and gaming and stopped caring with it,
2. Stuttering and fps drops were solved by installing Windows 10 again, that OS made something with my PC and Windows 7 just became unusable for gaming,

Thanks once more.

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